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FF 9.01 notices are too often pointless...



Some add-ons are absolutely necessary, like the Java components. When
FireFox informs me that 9.01 is not yet compatible with the latest that
Java has installed on my system, why should it still keep asking me if I
want to upgrade?

Kind of pointless isn't it?

Hmm...browser wars...people do stupid things in wars...
...and Java is not my only concern. The notification should inform me
specifically - instead of a general notice - about what other add-ons
are not yet ready for 9.01.

I tried 9.01 and it was unusable for me, at the time, although there are
indications that my most must-have add-on is now ready for 9.01.

But that's beside the point now that the Java upgrade has moved passed
9.01's compatibility.

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George Newton


George Newton Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:15:31 -0800

What Java is incompatible with Firefox?

I don't have the Java plugin installed, and Firefox has worked
flawlessly for me.

Did you want help getting Java working in your Firefox or not?

Just in case you do.

http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Troubleshooting%20plugins

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Thunderbird Beta


WLS Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:30:41 -0800

The current Java has always worked with Firefox 9.0. As well as with
10.0 and with 11.0 and with 12.0. It sounds like it is *you* that has
the problem. There recently was a security update to Java. May I
suggest that you look into that?

It does if the addon is posted to Mozilla Addons. Third party sites it
does not. how would you expect Mozilla to know about them?

If your "most must-have add-on", what ever it is, was not ready for
Firefox 9.0 that is the fault of the developer of that addon. You
should talk (type) to him about that.

BTW - Since your "most must-have add-on" was so slow to reach the
Firefox 9.0 release you should start now complaining to that developer
now. Firefox 10.0 is scheduled for release January 31, 2012 and once
again you will be left behind.


David Boles Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:38:16 -0800

http://blog.ffextensionguru.com/2011/11/07/removing-java-con[..]
"Unless you are a Java Developer, this extension serves no real
purpose for most Firefox users."

If you are a Java developer, I guess you would have more knowledge on
this than me :) .

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Fanolian Yim Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:46:21 -0800

I'm not a computer person but Java was constantly pestering me to
update.  I disabled the updater option in the Java program itself.
That's where it was coming from, not FF.


Frank Logullo Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:00:39 -0800

The 'Java Updates' is not there to annoy you. The updates are bug
fixes and more importantly *security* fixes. By not updating Java you
now have a known to be insecure version installed. If you chose *not*
to install the security updates I would highly recommend that you
uninstall Java.


David Boles Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:16:38 -0800

My bloviated meandering follows what George Newton graced us with on
1/22/2012 9:13 AM:

[snip /]

As a point of reference, I haven't installed Java in a couple of years
now and have yet to experience a site where it was absolutely necessary.

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Sailfish Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:30:33 -0800

My NAS software seems to want it.
D.

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Dave Symes Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:40:46 -0800

My bloviated meandering follows what Dave Symes graced us with on
1/22/2012 11:36 AM:

ah, maybe they have a more recent update that doesn't?

Anyway, if you need it then it is absolutely necessary.

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Sailfish Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:46:58 -0800

On 12-01-22 12:13 PM, _George Newton_ spoke thusly:

I suspect you're referring to the Java Console extension, not Java
itself. The Java plugin should still work, and for the most part you
shouldn't need the console extension. There is more info and a test link
at
< http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Using%20the%20Java%20plu[..] >

I think Oracle, who makes Java, is actually planning on removing the
Java console from default installs, if they haven't done so already.
If you do actually need the console extension, you can install the
Add-on Compatibility Reporter extension, which allows you to override
add-on compatibility and report whether or not the extension still
works. That report is then sent to Oracle so they know to mark their
extension as compatible. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compat[..]

Personal advice: The large majority of people don't even need the Java
plugin. If you don't know if you need it, remove it.

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Chris Ilias Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:56:19 -0800

computer person but it was bugging me every day even though I told it to
go ahead and update.  There are several versions in my computer and you
cannot delete them and I thought maybe each was doing this.


Frank Logullo Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:31:18 -0800

To not be "not a computer person" is nothing special.  <smile>  Me,
for example, is not one.

There is/was a bug in the Java program a while back where installing a
newer/update version did not remove part of the older one. That sounds
very much like what you describe. The part was the 'Java developer
kit' and most do not even need that. So it was annoying but did not
really damage anything. That was fixed in newer ones but, if I recall
correctly, did not fix the older ones.

It appears that you are using Windows Vista so this might be, should,
help with that. A easy to use GUI (Graphical User Interface) utility
named JavaRa.

< http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/> >


David Boles Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:08:18 -0800

Thanks.  I've given it a try and will see what happens.


Frank Logullo Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:46:03 -0800

*****There are several versions in my computer and you cannot delete
them and I thought maybe each was doing this.*****

Please read the following pages about Java

http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/remove_olderversions.xml http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp

If they can not be removed form the Windows Add/Remove Programs in the
control panel there is a program to remove all older versions of Java.

It can be currently downloaded from http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/

Apparently the originator of the program has transferred the rights to
the program since I cleaned up my computers.

You will gain disk space and your computer will run better.

It is my understanding that the recent versions of Java remove the old
version as part of the instal program.


Keith Nuttle Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:10:57 -0800



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