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For those not following the Raspberry Pi website and for some people the
confusion with pricing and availability to the non trade customers with
Element 14, R-Pi have just released a new price and postage grid on their
webpage.

For Australian purchasers the delivery cost has been removed.

For Austrians,Italians, Greeks and Greek Cypriots, who are non trade
customers will now be able to buy from a new Export Website going live
tomorrow (Wednesday) by credit card - no mention of PayPal.

Full details and matrix at www.raspberrypi.org

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cdb Tue, 27 Mar 2012 05:28:20 -0700

They say:

March 27th:

" ...  with the first delivery of reworked boards due to go out next
week,   ... "

Also:

OpenELEC for Raspberry Pi

Posted on March 9, 2012 by liz

The guys at OpenELEC, an embedded OS built specifically to run XBMC,
have announced their first ARM port and with it, support for Raspberry
Pi. (Please note that although their website says that they can only
support the Model B, the post was written just before we announced the
upgrade doubling the Model A=92s RAM.) I=92m a week or so late to the
party on this =96 apologies to Gimli and Stephan for the delay in
posting this while we wrestled with launch stuff here.

When a download is available (which should be pretty soon, and I
should point out that we have been the limiting factor here; we need
to get one of the boards with a replaced magjack out to the guys so
they can test it on a production board =96 that=92s Gimli=92s alpha board
you can see in the video), we=92ll be hosting it on our downloads page.

A quick word from Stephan:

What is OpenELEC?
OpenELEC is an embedded operating system built specifically to run
XBMC, the open source entertainment media hub. The idea behind
OpenELEC is to allow people to use their Home Theatre PC (HTPC) like
any other device you might have attached to your TV, like a DVD player
or Sky box. Instead of having to manage a full operating system,
configure it and install the packages required to turn it into a
hybrid media center, OpenELEC is designed to be simple to install,
manage and use, making it more like running a set-top box than a
full-blown computer.

OpenELEC is tiny, at 85-115MB, and for RaspberryPi it comes in at only
70MB, which comprises the whole OS including XBMC, Python, and all
services/tools needed to run XBMC. This means that at the moment, it=92s
the smallest distro for Raspberry Pi that we=92ve seen.


Russell McMahon Tue, 27 Mar 2012 05:55:02 -0700

I was placing a Farnell order and noted that you can order one
Raspberry Pi PER ORDER.
I ordered another (now 2).

The OpenELEC embedded OS built specifically to run XBMC is of great
interest to me.

It looks likely to allow implementing a media server to provide
slideshows in a manner that suits me at  a price below anything
available - and existing ones usually do not do a marvellous job of
doing any sort of user interactive flexible slideshow.

I now haven't got two more RP's than Gus hasn't got :-).

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Russell McMahon Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:12:06 -0700

I don't see what the big deal is about raspberry pie. The seeds get
stuck in my teeth.

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M L Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:10:10 -0700

To me for my initial intention for it, the big deal is that it offers
1080p(i(e))* video and an SD card in a well priced device, with
'ethernet' being an excellent bonus.
The ability to 'relatively easily' [tm] produce a video display system
for SD stored images with relatively powerful microcontroller support
with the complete core electronics costing under $US40, is
"attractive".
"Real video" is, in my opinion, what sets RP apart from other
similarly priced 'alternatives' to date.If people want to demonsrate
practicable alternatives at similar prices I will be delighted.

                  Russell

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Russell McMahon Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:42:22 -0700

:: I don't see what the big deal is about raspberry pie. The seeds get
:: stuck in my teeth.

more complete fruit.:)

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cdb Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:23:31 -0700

Though somehow I doubt there's an MDEC on there... so you won't be
decoding MPEG-4/AVC video on there any time soon. Well, not in real time
at least.

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Philip Pemberton Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:50:03 -0700

I agree that the Pi is an excellent bit of kit for the price.  The
developers have put a lot of effort into it.

I wonder how many people will be disappointed with it due to their
expectations being far too high.  It's not a $25 computer that will run
a full distribution with all sorts of added programs, but I have talked

I hope that a small number of decent, targeted distributions are
released that use the hardware to the best of its ability (much like
DD-WRT, OpenWRT etc do for routers).  I'd hate to see a large number of
half baked, unmaintained distributions that tail off after 6 months.
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David Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:04:02 -0700

Not needed for what I want - I want a "decent" JPG slideshow platform.
So far  I have not seen a standalone "media player" or inbuilt TV
system that does this very well.
A small subset of Irfanview functionality should be 'easy enough to do' [tm].

The ability for relatively unskilled people to view photo slideshows
in subdirectories and select photos on the fly for later printing or
copying would be good. Think eg wedding photos subset by bride's house
/ church / garden photos/reception etc.

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Russell McMahon Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:33:40 -0700

With the option to enter a comment or caption with selected pictures, and
possibly overlay it prior to printing, whilst the memory of the event is
fresh.

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Chris Roper Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:40:07 -0700

:: I don't see what the big deal is about raspberry pie. The seeds get
:: stuck in my teeth.

more complete fruit.:)

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NOPE9 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:30:56 -0700

Does anyone have one yet ?
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NOPE9 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:32:37 -0700

Word on the street is the first batch won't be going out to customers
until some time around July at the earliest...

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Philip Pemberton Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:44:10 -0700

They claim (your belief optional):

2000 in UK now
Undergoing compliance CE testing
Soon .... (probably) ...........

Photos of piles of boards in factory (FWIW)

               Russell

Read more here:   http://www.raspberrypi.org/

BUT

arch 28th update:

Update, 8.40pm Mar 28: element14 have put out a new update to their
FAQ, enlarging on what=92s happening with CE compliance. It=92s well worth
a read =96 head on over!

Update, 6pm Mar 28: we have spoken with BIS this morning, and they
have confirmed that, given the volumes involved and the demographic
mix of likely users, any development board exemption is not applicable
to us; as a result, even the first uncased developer units of
Raspberry Pi will require a CE mark prior to sale in the EU. As we
mention below, we are working with RS Components and element14/Premier
Farnell to bring Raspberry Pi into a compliant state as soon as is
humanly possible.

Following on from last week=92s discussions, both RS Components and
element14/Premier Farnell have now informed us that they are not able
to distribute the Raspberry Pi until it has received the CE mark.
believed that the uncased Raspberry Pi is not a “finished end
product”, and may be distributed on the same terms as Beagleboard and
other non-CE-marked platforms), we respect their right to make that
decision.

The good news is that our first 2,000 boards arrived in the UK on
Monday and that we are working to get them CE marked as soon as is
humanly possible, in parallel with bringing the remainder of our
initial batch into the country. Pete and Eben have been burning the
midnight oil =96 literally; I only exchanged about three words with Eben
yesterday, and those were when he got back in from a long day=92s
hacking at two in the morning. On the basis of preliminary
measurements, we expect emissions from the uncased product to meet
category A requirements comfortably without modification, and possibly
to meet the more stringent category B requirements which we had
originally expected would require a metalised case.


Russell McMahon Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:00:48 -0700

I think once a rev or two of the ARM distros have come out and the drivers get refined, it will make a very nice low-end box for email, light browsing, watching video, media fronted machine, etc.

For most people, currently available computers have more power than they need.

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Peter Loron Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:17:00 -0700

It could be a good solution for total non-geeks as it would be easy to
clean the card between  uses to help guard against the actions of
clueless people who might not know what not to click on.  I'm thinking
of my late 80's mother in law who wants to try simple browsing and email.

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Marcel Duchamp Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:24:04 -0700

This situation is much like Xeno's paradoxes
99guspuppet

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NOPE9 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:54:50 -0700

It will run a full distribution. Take your pick between debian, fedora
or arch
and it's SD card based so storarage is reasonablly cheap.

The main limiting factor will be what you can reasonablly have in ram at one
time not what you can have installed.

I think the current state of play with X is that it will run on the
framebuffer
but they are still working on a GPU accelerated X server.

Personally one of the big attractions of the Pi to me is that I can actually
run a regular linux distro rather than the extremely stripped down stuff you
have to run on hacked routers.

People run debian on the NSLU2 and that is far lower spec than the Pi.
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Peter Green Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:20:14 -0700

It seems to decode MPEG-4 and H.264 very nicely from the videos showing it running XBMC.

Mike

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Michael Rigby-Jones Fri, 30 Mar 2012 02:44:58 -0700

:: I'm thinking
:: of my late 80's mother in law who wants to try simple browsing and
:: email.

For some reason I read that as your mother-in-law in the 1980's - meanign
she was old fashioned. :) Then I thought 1980 isn't that long ago.

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cdb Fri, 30 Mar 2012 03:14:40 -0700

Another update, with pretty pictures of desert in someone's garage.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/945#comments
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cdb Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:59:39 -0700

For Gus.
The conspiracy continues :-) :
Note the lack of newspapers or cucumber sandwiches.
They say:

And finally, some of you were asking whether there were any photos of
the Raspberry Pis we have already in the UK. (We showed you some
pictures from the factory the other day.) Jack, trustee extraordinaire
and our COO, sent me these. Sadly, he has not done the hostage
proof-of-life thing by making the pallet hold today=92s newspaper, nor
has he balanced a cucumber sandwich and a cup of tea on the Raspberry
Pis to demonstrate that they are in England; but they=92re here, waiting
to go out to you as soon as EM tests are passed and the CE docs are
filed.

Much more at:


Russell McMahon Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:38:07 -0700

My number came up.
I ordered it with most of the options, just to rule out any unnecessary
misadventures.
I have no idea what to do with it.
Strange that the Linux Fedora on a SD card is on back-order, hopefully
that will change before the promised 6-week delay to ship is reached.
It does not matter though, I have no use for the product with out the
software. It does seem strange that they don't simply post an ISO and
instructions.
<<Unless, of course, it really don't work as promised>>

If it turns out to be a hoax or other misadventure, it won't be my first
time on that trip!
I don't plan on investing much more time until I receive the product...
They must have about a half million dollars in orders accepted now.

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John Ferrell Thu, 31 May 2012 08:50:03 -0700

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Subject: Re: [OT] Element14 and Raspberry Pi update.

>My number came up.
>I ordered it with most of the options, just to rule out any unnecessary misadventures.
>I have no idea what to do with it.
>Strange that the Linux Fedora on a SD card is on back-order, hopefully that will change before the promised 6-week delay to ship is reached.
>It does not matter though, I have no use for the product with out the software. It does seem strange that they don't simply post an ISO and instructions.

The links to the Fedora Remix installation files can be found at  http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/805

However, there are newer distros available on their download page at  http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads

The Arch Linux distro seems to be the best bet in terms of out-of-the-box speed.

Cheers

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Michael Rigby-Jones Thu, 31 May 2012 10:05:19 -0700

You mean like this? http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
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Chris McSweeny Thu, 31 May 2012 12:27:44 -0700

Yes.
Being a Windows user with several aborted attempts at Linux I remain
optimistic.

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John Ferrell Thu, 31 May 2012 12:57:17 -0700

It arrived today.
I wanted to head off as many trivial problems as possible, so I ordered
the ethernet cable, 4GB card with OS installed, HDMI cable, RCA plug
cable, switching PS.
It would have been cumbersome to connect power with the tiny USB
connector. However, I over looked the specs on the PS about the Euro
connector. I will see if adapters are available locally or hack an AC
connection.
The PI was $35 but the PS & "stuff" brought the bill up to $76.60.

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John Ferrell Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:25:34 -0700

When did you place the order?
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solarwind Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:52:13 -0700

I think I did the "Express interest" email in late March. I got
notification I could order (RS) and I placed the order on May 30. The

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John Ferrell Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:50:30 -0700

Hi All
    CPC are now shipping Raspberry Pi 's in the UK now.
    
    Should receive one in  7 days ! hopefully.

    Bill Finkle.
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Bill Finkle Mon, 27 Aug 2012 02:43:42 -0700

::CPC are now shipping Raspberry Pi 's in the UK now.

This should mean you will be getting on of the USB fuse free ones. Someone
where I work received their second one from RS UK/AUS last week and they
have the new zero ohm resistor substitutes for the fuses.

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cdb Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:02:56 -0700

What was the issue with the fuses?

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Neil Mon, 27 Aug 2012 05:28:17 -0700

I ordered mine at the beginning of July from RS and will be waiting until the middle of September!

Joe


Joe McCauley Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:22:05 -0700

:: What was the issue with the fuses?

Some of the fuses had a higher resistance than others (being Polyfuses) and
the voltage drop across them on some Pis was enough for some Pis to have
problems with USB comms.

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cdb Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:04:12 -0700

Hi All.

        Raspberry Pi has arrived, 5 days early.

        Now to find out what I can do with it.

        Lots of fun over the weekend :)

    Bill Finkle


Bill Finkle Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:50:42 -0700

There's a store right next to U of T (creatron) that is selling model Bs
for $42. Totally worth it for an instant buy considering one has to pay
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